{"id":3221,"date":"2013-03-26T15:30:15","date_gmt":"2013-03-26T15:30:15","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/blog.genealogybank.com\/?p=3221"},"modified":"2013-03-26T15:30:15","modified_gmt":"2013-03-26T15:30:15","slug":"what-counties-towns-in-ireland-did-our-ancestors-come-from","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.genealogybank.com\/blog\/what-counties-towns-in-ireland-did-our-ancestors-come-from.html","title":{"rendered":"What Counties &#038; Towns in Ireland Did Our Ancestors Come From?"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>Genealogists know the frustration of tracking down your Irish immigrant ancestor\u2019s birth, marriage or death certificate, hoping that it will be the document that finally tells you where in Ireland your family came from\u2014only to be disappointed once again.<\/p>\n<figure id=\"attachment_3222\" aria-describedby=\"caption-attachment-3222\" style=\"width: 713px\" class=\"wp-caption aligncenter\"><a href=\"https:\/\/www.genealogybank.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2013\/03\/collage-0326-2013-death-certificates-ireland.png\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"size-full wp-image-3222\" title=\"collage-0326-2013-death-certificates-ireland\" src=\"https:\/\/www.genealogybank.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2013\/03\/collage-0326-2013-death-certificates-ireland.png\" alt=\"Irish American death certificates\" width=\"713\" height=\"470\" srcset=\"https:\/\/www.genealogybank.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2013\/03\/collage-0326-2013-death-certificates-ireland.png 713w, https:\/\/www.genealogybank.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2013\/03\/collage-0326-2013-death-certificates-ireland-300x197.png 300w, https:\/\/www.genealogybank.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2013\/03\/collage-0326-2013-death-certificates-ireland-455x300.png 455w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 713px) 100vw, 713px\" \/><\/a><figcaption id=\"caption-attachment-3222\" class=\"wp-caption-text\">Irish American death certificates<\/figcaption><\/figure>\n<p>So many census registrars simply wrote \u201cIreland\u201d on the form, giving no additional clues about the town or county. This practice can present a challenge to those of us seeking to locate the towns or counties in Ireland where our Irish immigrant ancestors came from.<\/p>\n<p>You can see this problem in the 1892 <a href=\"http:\/\/www.nysl.nysed.gov\/genealogy\/nyscens.htm\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">New York state census<\/a>, which is online. Here is a typical entry, for the Scully family. The census tells us that the family members were born in \u201cIreland\u201d and now live in Albany, New York.<\/p>\n<figure id=\"attachment_3223\" aria-describedby=\"caption-attachment-3223\" style=\"width: 922px\" class=\"wp-caption aligncenter\"><a href=\"https:\/\/www.genealogybank.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2013\/03\/illustration-0326-2013-new-york-state-census-scully-1892.png\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"size-full wp-image-3223\" title=\"illustration-0326-2013-new-york-state-census-scully-1892\" src=\"https:\/\/www.genealogybank.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2013\/03\/illustration-0326-2013-new-york-state-census-scully-1892.png\" alt=\"1892 New York Census: Scully\" width=\"922\" height=\"213\" srcset=\"https:\/\/www.genealogybank.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2013\/03\/illustration-0326-2013-new-york-state-census-scully-1892.png 922w, https:\/\/www.genealogybank.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2013\/03\/illustration-0326-2013-new-york-state-census-scully-1892-300x69.png 300w, https:\/\/www.genealogybank.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2013\/03\/illustration-0326-2013-new-york-state-census-scully-1892-500x115.png 500w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 922px) 100vw, 922px\" \/><\/a><figcaption id=\"caption-attachment-3223\" class=\"wp-caption-text\">1892 New York Census: Scully<\/figcaption><\/figure>\n<p>Credit: \u201cNew York, State Census, 1892,\u201d index and images, FamilySearch (<a href=\"https:\/\/familysearch.org\/pal:\/MM9.1.1\/X366-VPR\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">https:\/\/familysearch.org\/pal:\/MM9.1.1\/X366-VPR<\/a>. Accessed 21 Mar 2013, Kate Scully, 1892.<\/p>\n<p>How are we going to find out exactly where in Ireland the Irish family members were born? <a href=\"https:\/\/www.genealogybank.com\/static\/ethnic\/irish-american-newspapers.html\">Irish American Newspapers<\/a>!<\/p>\n<p>It has been my experience that Irish American newspapers are the genealogist\u2019s most reliable source for finding information about our Irish ancestors\u2019 birthplaces. Will every Irish obituary or marriage record give these details? No\u2014but many of these old Irish American newspaper records do.<\/p>\n<p>Let\u2019s turn to historical Irish American newspapers to try and find the birth place of the first Scully member listed in the NY census.<\/p>\n<p>Searching GenealogyBank for references to Catherine Scully of Albany, I found her obituary published in the <a href=\"https:\/\/www.genealogybank.com\/gbnk\/newspapers\/explore\/USA\/New_York\/New_York\/Irish_World\/\"><em>Irish World News<\/em><\/a> (New York City, New York), 2 December 1893, page 5.<\/p>\n<figure id=\"attachment_3224\" aria-describedby=\"caption-attachment-3224\" style=\"width: 450px\" class=\"wp-caption aligncenter\"><a href=\"https:\/\/www.genealogybank.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2013\/03\/irish-world-news-newspaper-1202-1893-catherine-scully-obituary.png\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"size-full wp-image-3224\" title=\"irish-world-news-newspaper-1202-1893-catherine-scully-obituary\" src=\"https:\/\/www.genealogybank.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2013\/03\/irish-world-news-newspaper-1202-1893-catherine-scully-obituary.png\" alt=\"Catherine Scully obituary, Irish World News newspaper article 2 December 1893\" width=\"450\" height=\"292\" srcset=\"https:\/\/www.genealogybank.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2013\/03\/irish-world-news-newspaper-1202-1893-catherine-scully-obituary.png 450w, https:\/\/www.genealogybank.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2013\/03\/irish-world-news-newspaper-1202-1893-catherine-scully-obituary-300x194.png 300w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 450px) 100vw, 450px\" \/><\/a><figcaption id=\"caption-attachment-3224\" class=\"wp-caption-text\">Irish World News (New York City, New York), 2 December 1893, page 5<\/figcaption><\/figure>\n<p>Bingo. This old newspaper obituary tells us that she was born in Ballingarry, which is in County Tipperary, Ireland.<\/p>\n<p>And there are more genealogical clues\u2026It tells us that:<\/p>\n<ul>\n<li>She died 3 November 1893 at her home in Albany, New York<\/li>\n<li>She was a widow\u2014her husband was Andrew Scully<\/li>\n<li>Her maiden name was Hayde<\/li>\n<li>She was a Catholic, and was buried at St. Agnes\u2019 Cemetery<\/li>\n<li>Her four surviving children were: Ellen, John, Lawrence and Patrick<\/li>\n<li>She was a member of the Ladies\u2019 Catholic Benevolent Association, Branch 25<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<p>Now that we know she was born in Ballingarry, County Tipperary, Ireland, in 1846, we can look for images of the Irish town from 150 years ago.<\/p>\n<p>The search for images of Ballingarry was easy: Wikipedia has an engraving of a street scene from the town in 1848.<\/p>\n<p>What a treasure to have an image of this Irish town from the time when she was born!<\/p>\n<figure id=\"attachment_3225\" aria-describedby=\"caption-attachment-3225\" style=\"width: 830px\" class=\"wp-caption aligncenter\"><a href=\"https:\/\/www.genealogybank.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2013\/03\/illustration-0326-2013-ballingarry-ireland.png\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"size-full wp-image-3225\" title=\"illustration-0326-2013-ballingarry-ireland\" src=\"https:\/\/www.genealogybank.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2013\/03\/illustration-0326-2013-ballingarry-ireland.png\" alt=\"illustration of Ballingarry, Ireland\" width=\"830\" height=\"406\" srcset=\"https:\/\/www.genealogybank.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2013\/03\/illustration-0326-2013-ballingarry-ireland.png 830w, https:\/\/www.genealogybank.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2013\/03\/illustration-0326-2013-ballingarry-ireland-300x146.png 300w, https:\/\/www.genealogybank.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2013\/03\/illustration-0326-2013-ballingarry-ireland-500x244.png 500w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 830px) 100vw, 830px\" \/><\/a><figcaption id=\"caption-attachment-3225\" class=\"wp-caption-text\">Illustration: Ballingarry in 1848. Credit: Wikipedia.<\/figcaption><\/figure>\n<p>Hey\u2014could that be her on the right side of this image standing with her father?<\/p>\n<p>Every genealogist wants to know exactly where in Ireland\u2014or any country\u2014their family came from.<\/p>\n<p>Newspapers are a great resource for finding those family facts. Dig into GenealogyBank\u2019s <a href=\"https:\/\/www.genealogybank.com\/explore\/newspapers\/all\">newspaper archives online<\/a> and find the details and stories of your ancestors\u2019 lives.<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Genealogists know the frustration of tracking down your Irish immigrant ancestor\u2019s birth, marriage or death certificate, hoping that it will be the document that finally tells you where in Ireland your family came from\u2014only to be disappointed once again. So many census registrars simply wrote \u201cIreland\u201d on the form, giving no additional clues about the [&hellip;]<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":1,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"_acf_changed":false,"_jetpack_memberships_contains_paid_content":false,"footnotes":""},"categories":[12713],"tags":[1634,3558,3556,4,3554,1142,3557,5302,3560,1129,1658,2233,1762,3559,465,5323,497,68,3239,3238,3561,3564,3562,22,455,878,5366,2020,27,530,1084,3563,5426,3555],"class_list":["post-3221","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","category-genealogy-research-tips","tag-albany-2","tag-andrew-scully","tag-ballingarry","tag-birth","tag-catherine-scully","tag-census","tag-county-tipperary","tag-death","tag-ellen-scully","tag-family","tag-family-history-2","tag-family-research","tag-father","tag-hayde","tag-historical-newspapers","tag-husband","tag-ireland","tag-irish","tag-irish-american-newspapers","tag-irish-americans","tag-john-scully","tag-ladies-catholic-benevolent-association","tag-lawrence-scully","tag-marriage","tag-new-york","tag-new-york-city","tag-news","tag-newspaper-archives","tag-newspapers","tag-ny","tag-obituaries","tag-patrick-scully","tag-records","tag-scully"],"acf":[],"jetpack_sharing_enabled":true,"jetpack_featured_media_url":"","_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.genealogybank.com\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/3221","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.genealogybank.com\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.genealogybank.com\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.genealogybank.com\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/1"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.genealogybank.com\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=3221"}],"version-history":[{"count":0,"href":"https:\/\/www.genealogybank.com\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/3221\/revisions"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.genealogybank.com\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=3221"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.genealogybank.com\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=3221"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.genealogybank.com\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=3221"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}