{"id":658,"date":"2012-03-16T15:40:21","date_gmt":"2012-03-16T15:40:21","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/blog.genealogybank.com\/?p=658"},"modified":"2021-04-28T09:23:53","modified_gmt":"2021-04-28T13:23:53","slug":"tracing-genealogy-with-pennsylvania-death-certificates","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.genealogybank.com\/blog\/tracing-genealogy-with-pennsylvania-death-certificates.html","title":{"rendered":"Tracing Genealogy with Pennsylvania Death Certificates"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>Every day we get interesting genealogy questions from our members via our <a href=\"https:\/\/www.genealogybank.com\/ask-the-genealogist\">Ask<strong> <\/strong>the Genealogist<\/a> service. The following is a good example: a member asked for help finding information about a great-grandfather.<\/p>\n<p><strong>Question:<\/strong><strong><\/strong><\/p>\n<p>I am looking for more information on my great-grandfather, Edgar Rhue Harner. He was born in Berks Co., PA, in 1860. He married Naomi Sines and they lived in Delaware Co., PA. No one in the family knows what happened to Edgar. I tracked census info and the last one he appears in with his family is the 1910 census, enumerated in Delaware Co, PA. After much research, I found him in the 1920 census in Norristown, PA, as a patient in the \u201cState Hospital for the Insane.\u201d That hospital, Norristown State Hospital, is still in existence, but I haven\u2019t been able to get any info from them. Everything dead-ends at the 1920 census. I can find NO obituary or death record or any other info at all.<\/p>\n<p>Any suggestions?<\/p>\n<p><strong>Answer from our genealogist:<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>Since there was no obituary published for him, you want to look for his death certificate. The state of Pennsylvania makes that easy to do. They have put up online indexes for all death certificates from 1906 to 1961 here: <span class=\"removed_link\" title=\"http:\/\/www.portal.state.pa.us\/portal\/server.pt?open=514&amp;objID=1085804&amp;mode=2\">http:\/\/www.portal.state.pa.us\/portal\/server.pt?open=514&amp;objID=1085804&amp;mode=2<\/span><\/p>\n<figure id=\"attachment_659\" aria-describedby=\"caption-attachment-659\" style=\"width: 763px\" class=\"wp-caption alignnone\"><a href=\"https:\/\/www.genealogybank.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2012\/03\/pennsylvania-dept.-of-health-death-records-0316-2012.png\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"size-full wp-image-659\" title=\"pennsylvania-dept.-of-health-death-records-0316-2012\" src=\"https:\/\/www.genealogybank.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2012\/03\/pennsylvania-dept.-of-health-death-records-0316-2012.png\" alt=\"pennsylvania dept. of health public records death indices\" width=\"763\" height=\"580\" srcset=\"https:\/\/www.genealogybank.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2012\/03\/pennsylvania-dept.-of-health-death-records-0316-2012.png 763w, https:\/\/www.genealogybank.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2012\/03\/pennsylvania-dept.-of-health-death-records-0316-2012-300x228.png 300w, https:\/\/www.genealogybank.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2012\/03\/pennsylvania-dept.-of-health-death-records-0316-2012-394x300.png 394w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 763px) 100vw, 763px\" \/><\/a><figcaption id=\"caption-attachment-659\" class=\"wp-caption-text\">Pennsylvania Dept. of Health Public Records: Death Indices<\/figcaption><\/figure>\n<p>You need to click on each year and then search the index. This indexing system uses the Soundex system familiar to many genealogists; it assigns codes to sounds to track down surnames and their variants. Harner would code out to H-656.<\/p>\n<figure id=\"attachment_660\" aria-describedby=\"caption-attachment-660\" style=\"width: 615px\" class=\"wp-caption alignnone\"><a href=\"https:\/\/www.genealogybank.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2012\/03\/edgar-harner-death-index-1117-1922.png\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"size-full wp-image-660\" title=\"1922 Pennsylvania death index\" src=\"https:\/\/www.genealogybank.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2012\/03\/edgar-harner-death-index-1117-1922.png\" alt=\"1922 Pennsylvania death index\" width=\"615\" height=\"416\" srcset=\"https:\/\/www.genealogybank.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2012\/03\/edgar-harner-death-index-1117-1922.png 615w, https:\/\/www.genealogybank.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2012\/03\/edgar-harner-death-index-1117-1922-300x202.png 300w, https:\/\/www.genealogybank.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2012\/03\/edgar-harner-death-index-1117-1922-443x300.png 443w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 615px) 100vw, 615px\" \/><\/a><figcaption id=\"caption-attachment-660\" class=\"wp-caption-text\">1922 Pennsylvania death index<\/figcaption><\/figure>\n<p>And there he is listed in the deaths for 1922.<\/p>\n<p>Here is your great-grandfather\u2019s entry:<\/p>\n<p>H-656:\u00a0\u00a0 Edgar Harner, Certificate Number 106302, Norristn (abbreviation for Norristown), died 11\/17 (17 November 1922).<\/p>\n<p>Pennsylvania considers death certificates that are over 50 years old public records. So, your next step is to order a copy of his death certificate.<\/p>\n<p>To apply for a non-certified copy of a death certificate from 1906 through 1961: <span class=\"removed_link\" title=\"http:\/\/www.portal.state.pa.us\/portal\/server.pt?open=18&amp;objID=1223486&amp;mode=2\">download the death application form here:\u00a0<\/span><\/p>\n<figure id=\"attachment_662\" aria-describedby=\"caption-attachment-662\" style=\"width: 465px\" class=\"wp-caption alignnone\"><a href=\"https:\/\/www.genealogybank.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2012\/03\/pennsylvania-dept.-of-health-death-records-application-0316-2012.png\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"size-full wp-image-662\" title=\"pennsylvania-dept.-of-health-death-records-application-0316-2012\" src=\"https:\/\/www.genealogybank.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2012\/03\/pennsylvania-dept.-of-health-death-records-application-0316-2012.png\" alt=\"pennsylvania dept. of health death records application\" width=\"465\" height=\"595\" srcset=\"https:\/\/www.genealogybank.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2012\/03\/pennsylvania-dept.-of-health-death-records-application-0316-2012.png 465w, https:\/\/www.genealogybank.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2012\/03\/pennsylvania-dept.-of-health-death-records-application-0316-2012-234x300.png 234w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 465px) 100vw, 465px\" \/><\/a><figcaption id=\"caption-attachment-662\" class=\"wp-caption-text\">Pennsylvania Department of Health Death Records application<\/figcaption><\/figure>\n<p>Mail the completed application to:<\/p>\n<p>Division of Vital Records<br \/>\nATTN:\u00a0\u00a0Public Records<br \/>\nP.O. Box 1528<br \/>\nNew Castle, PA\u00a0\u00a016103<\/p>\n<p>There is a $3 fee for each non-certified copy ordered.\u00a0Check or money order should be made payable to Vital Records. Mail requests are processed in approximately 4 months.<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Every day we get interesting genealogy questions from our members via our Ask the Genealogist service. The following is a good example: a member asked for help finding information about a great-grandfather. Question: I am looking for more information on my great-grandfather, Edgar Rhue Harner. He was born in Berks Co., PA, in 1860. 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